Politics after the Jump.

"Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis" (Dwhite95) 01/07/2016 at 13:29 • Filed to: None

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So yeah, have a GT40.

Anyways what I was getting at was !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . “Alabama Chief Justice Orders Judges To Enforce Ban On Same-Sex Marriage.”

I’m sick and tired of hearing of this shit, its gone through just about every federal court in the land, its hit the supreme court and every one of the has ruled in favor of same-sex marriage. Get over it, move on, all you are doing is cementing your place in history books as an asshole, everything from common sense to judicial precedence say you are going to lose.

What do you stand to gain from this? Is it to prove your faith, because from what I’ve read you’ve done that a lot, doesnt seem you have much more to prove. All I see is you are putting people in a very tough position, even ignoring gay people that are affected. You are publicly telling your colleagues to break the law, a law in which someone has already gone to jail for breaking in the same exact way, a law in which federal prosecutors say will be enforced against these judges. And back to the question at the beginning, I simply dont understand what you stand to gain here, what do you gain from stopping a group of people marrying? Personal satisfaction? Success on some sort of vendetta on people getting married? What is it?

Cherry_man1 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:32

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Because he must of been done in the butt at law school and never got his reach around.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:34

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I’m from there, though I don’t live there anymore...however if I did live there, I think my head would explode. My personal opinion is that Judge Roy Moore should be stripped of his office, because he has made it abundantly clear that he doesn’t understand the law.

For Sweden > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:34

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Selective enforcement of federal law is the new normal for states. See: marriage licenses, drug laws, immigration, etc.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 13:37

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In some cases it makes sense for those states though, increased revenue, decrease in administrative costs, things of that nature. But here I dont see the benefit of perusing this.

davedave1111 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:39

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If you’re repressing your own homosexual urges, you tend to get very angry at the idea that others might not feel the need to repress theirs. Basically, pretty much every person who opposes same-sex marriage is bisexual at the very least. I guess that kind of self-delusion is necessary to also make claims about marriage ‘traditionally’ being between ‘one man and one woman’ despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Well, there’s also the category of people like me, who’d like to see all state-sanctioned marriage abolished - but we don’t think anyone should be treated differently from other people, just that the state should get its nose out of everyone’s private life.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 13:40

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Small government, unless its in the bedroom, we need lots of government there...

For Sweden > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:40

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Proponents of this policy would say protecting their conscious is a benefit.

Once we establish the precedent that states can ignore Federal law for financial gain and convenience, the Establishment Clause isn’t a compelling argument again’t the Chief Justice’s order.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:41

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Votes.

Rainbow > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:43

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Honestly, what pisses me off most is that this is a “political” issue. It’s really not. This is exactly the same as banning Asian people from riding skateboards or something. It’s just ridiculous.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:44

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I’ve been saying this for roughly a decade now - it’s unconstitutional to not provide same sex marriage.

It’s really just that simple. They are letting a religious perspective effect the laws of the country. Separation of Church and State is a pretty clear line drawn saying that’s not the way this works.

I understand 100% a church saying no thanks we’re not going to marry you. That’s defended by their religion. I don’t agree with it, but it’s their choice.

A judge should be required to render the same services to all people no matter their sex, race, religion, etc.

It’s un-American to ban same sex marriage and it’s pretty god damn easy to see it.

Throw this ass hole in prison.

450X_FTW > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:44

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You don’t understand, the bible says it’s wrong!!!

/sarcasm

For Sweden > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 13:44

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I don’t understand the meme that all hate of gay people comes from other gay people. Are straight people not capable of being homophobic?

jariten1781 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:45

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You don't remember the Little Rock 9? This shit is par-for-the-course historically. It'll get sorted.

Jcarr > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 13:47

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Basically, pretty much every person who opposes same-sex marriage is bisexual at the very least.

If there’s one thing we need more of, it’s sweeping generalizations.

Come on, you’re not helping anything by making statements like this.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > jariten1781 01/07/2016 at 13:48

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I know it will eventually, my only point was why it had to be an issue in the first place. Maybe I’m just a bit too idealistic that we can learn from our past mistakes.

davedave1111 > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 13:48

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I don’t know about capable. I just know that homophobes always turn out to be gay. Next time you meet one, try asking what it is they dislike about homosexuality. They invariably have very lurid, detailed pictures in their heads. And you know what we call men who fantasise about other men having sex, right?

davedave1111 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:50

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Where does the idea the Republicans are about small government come from? It hasn’t been true for, what, a century or more?

The idea of a political party that campaigns for small government is a lot like the idea of turkeys campaigning for more Thanksgiving dinners.

For Sweden > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 13:50

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I don’t buy the idea that gay men have an extra capacity for hate.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 13:52

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Since the republicans campaign on it. Whether or not the make good on those campaign promises is another story however.

MarquetteLa > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 13:52

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It’s a trend .

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:55

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People suck.

Berang > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 13:56

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There are a good number of people in this world who’ve fucked up their own life so badly that they begin to take joy in dictating what is right or wrong for others. Mandating that somebody’s life be “wrong” for no other reason than that it makes them feel comfortable that at least they’re not “wrong” in that way.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 13:59

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Probably, but wouldn’t it be more fun for us if they were to be thought of as gay?

davedave1111 > Jcarr 01/07/2016 at 13:59

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But it’s true. I’ve never heard a single person with properly homophobic views who was not pretty obviously repressing their own sexuality.

There’s a long history of homophobia being a strange gay subculture, too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-…

As I said in another comment, ask anyone who opposes same-sex marriage what it is about homosexuality that they don’t like, and they will immediately make it plain to you that they have spent a lot of time imagining men having a bit of cock-and-bum fun. People who imagine other men having sex with each other are what we call ‘gay’. It really is that simple, even if they can’t admit their sexuality to themselves.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Jcarr 01/07/2016 at 14:01

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It’s a sweeping generalization that’s targetted at a bunch of assholes for whom such a generalization would be perhaps more offensive than a sweeping generalization about gay people would be to the gays. I’m all for it, personally. Give ‘em a taste of their own medicine. Maybe if all homophobes were accepted to be gay by society, they’d be less vile ;)

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:01

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They are trying to hold onto how the federal government was originally set up. With states having more controll over things and federal government overseeing. Its like how states are making marijuana legal but its still illegal federally. Such as people cannot bring weed in through borders even in states where weed is legal.

davedave1111 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:02

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But they don’t really campaign on it. Maybe slogans about it, but no policies related to it.

Jcarr > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 14:03

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There may be many who fit that bill, but you simply cannot state that every single person that opposes homosexual marriage is repressing homosexual feelings.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 14:03

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You’ve clearly never heard of Perez Hilton.

davedave1111 > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 14:04

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“I don’t buy the idea that gay men have an extra capacity for hate.”

Nor do I. But I do buy the idea that people who hate themselves lash out at the world.

For what it’s worth, I also think a lot of racists are similarly raging at the world for being happy while they can’t be happy with themselves, which goes a long way to explaining the crossover between racism and homophobia.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/07/2016 at 14:06

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DING DING DING!

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:06

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Our fine officials in the spotlight once again

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 01/07/2016 at 14:07

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Not against you, but putting this in here inb4 “Lol they aren’t voted in dumbass". The people who put them in are voted for.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 14:08

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I’m totally going to try that next time and be all “Ooh, that sounds fun!” to the details.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:08

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Well, someone has to hold the camera, right?

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/07/2016 at 14:09

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Don’t know if bitterness counts as hate. That’s the vibe I get from that guy.

davedave1111 > Jcarr 01/07/2016 at 14:09

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I didn’t say that. I said ‘pretty much every person’. I’m willing to accept that there may be some out there who aren’t, even though they’re doing a good job hiding if they exist.

-this space for rent- > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:11

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Good opportunity to ask why the government has any business issuing licenses for marriage in the first place. Alabama had some legislation floating around last year to remove the marriage license requirement altogether.

Wacko > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:13

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what’s next, we ban Muslims from entering the country?

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > -this space for rent- 01/07/2016 at 14:14

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My guess is because of the tax implications.

Berang > davedave1111 01/07/2016 at 14:16

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I don’t know. Usually they turn out to be misogynists.

A lot of what disgusts straight people about homosexuality is that it doesn’t adhere to the gender roles they idealize. That a man would lower himself to the position of a woman, for the sake of another man, pretty much terrifies them (and don’t even suggest that a man might do this willingly for their own pleasure). There’s also then they have to question if another man would want to lower them down to women’s level. This both pisses off and scares men (and sometimes women too).

crowmolly > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 14:17

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Exactly. Look at weed laws. And guns.

For Sweden > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/07/2016 at 14:19

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Alabama Supreme Court justices are elected.

Noah - Now with more boost. > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:21

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I’m so ashamed of this country. Why can’t my LGBT friends just do their thing? The people who support gay marriage bans belong to a contingent of bigots who can’t stand the progressive direction the US is heading in. They’re upset because they’re WASPs who want the 1950s status quo back: Supremacy over all minorities - non protestant religions, gays, black americans, the poor, and immigrants of color. And don’t forget control over women’s bodies too.

Let me break down the discriminatory slang:

1. “All lives matter” - We don’t care about police brutality because we’re racist. I’ve even been told that “the libs are paying black people to protest.”

2. “Family values” - We hate gay people and we hate premarital sex. Pray the gay away and become a teen mom if you make a mistake.

3. “Freeloading (insert racial slur here)” - We’re selfish so we don’t want to help people who are less fortunate than us.

How anyone can hold any of these views and claim to have decent morals is beyond me. They’re closed-minded, indoctrinated white supremacists. I can’t wait for the USA to leave them in the dust.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 14:23

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Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > For Sweden 01/07/2016 at 14:26

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Well then I was right the first time, before someone "corrected" me. Still, votes is my final answer.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:31

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It’s just become to be commonplace for people on the right to just plainly ignore federal law and declare that their land is not subject to the laws of the land. It’s idiotic. It’s like those ranchers who are failing so badly to try to be proud oppressors of US laws and common sense at times.

And without gay marriage, they don’t have much to rabble on about. What they can gain from gay marriage being banned is one thing they can just be proud about. They can’t have it banned all out (then they don’t have anything to shout about) and they can’t have it all legalized (they can only rabble about that).

And a lot of them follow the bible. But the bible has a lot of things that could be applied to nowaday life and some that can’t be remotely be applied to nowaday life, like the stuff on slavery.

they want a dream utopia where they rule all in a monarchy way. Sorry. No. That’s why we broke away from mother england.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/07/2016 at 14:33

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Yeah, the technical answer is “because the people who can help their career will like it”

boredalways > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 01/07/2016 at 14:48

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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but he was removed from office in 2003.

The people of Alabama voted him back in office in 2012!

reap what you sow

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > boredalways 01/07/2016 at 14:51

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Not me, I don’t live there anymore....

Funktheduck > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 14:57

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There's also property and next of kin laws.

-this space for rent- > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 15:00

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Good opportunity to simplify the tax code as well.

wiffleballtony > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 15:05

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I always see stuff like this as essentially wasting political capital on dead end legislation.

Hot Takes Salesman > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/07/2016 at 15:18

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Does anyone have a Mason-Dixon Line sized saw so we can stop hearing about this bullshit?

BigBlock440 > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 01/07/2016 at 15:56

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It’s just become to be commonplace for people on the right to just plainly ignore federal law and declare that their land is not subject to the laws of the land.

Like California, Colorado, and Washington? Sanctuary cities, weed, etc.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > BigBlock440 01/07/2016 at 16:01

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It's on both sides With the left and the right. It's debatable on how the effects can rain out.

boredalways > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 01/07/2016 at 16:16

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...that you felt compelled to say it twice 

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > boredalways 01/07/2016 at 16:40

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Just stating it in case you just skim.

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 01/08/2016 at 02:04

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All those states legalized Medical Pot Use or just plain Pot use. Then the DEA busted the Guys making Big Money out of it because it wasn’t the, “Spirit of the Law”.

They wanted sick people to grow their own, that way they can get their plants robbed.

Maybe Hurt or killed. Many who use pot for medical reasons can’t grow pot themselves.

davedave1111 > Berang 01/08/2016 at 07:39

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I’d point to the common thread there: misogyny, homophobia, racism - the one thing they have in common is hatred of others. Self-hatred explains the lot.